2018-04-06

Hermann Detering on the place of Gnosticism and Buddhism in Jesus Cult Origins

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by Neil Godfrey

Recall a post now six months old: The Gnostic Interpretation of the Exodus and the Beginnings of the Joshua/Jesus Cult — Hermann Detering

René Salm has begun a commentary series on Detering’s article. See

H. Detering, “The Gnostic Meaning of the Exodus”—A commentary (Pt. 1)

I look forward to doing my own discussions of Detering’s views as a result of a reader very generously working on an English translation in association with Dr Detering himself.

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Klaus Schilling says:

2018-04-10 18:24:49 GMT+0000 at 18:24

Detering also wrote recently an article on Basilides and the older Indian Samkhya doctrine.

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2018-04-06

Hermann Detering on the place of Gnosticism and Buddhism in Jesus Cult Origins

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