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Day: April 6, 2018


2018-04-06

Hermann Detering on the place of Gnosticism and Buddhism in Jesus Cult Origins

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by Neil Godfrey

Filed under: Biblical Studies, Early Christianities, Gnosticism, New Testament, Religion and Atheism
Tags: Buddhism, Christian Origins, Gnosticism, Hermann Detering

Recall a post now six months old: The Gnostic Interpretation of the Exodus and the Beginnings of the Joshua/Jesus Cult — Hermann Detering

René Salm has begun a commentary series on Detering’s article. See

H. Detering, “The Gnostic Meaning of the Exodus”—A commentary (Pt. 1)

I look forward to doing my own discussions of Detering’s views as a result of a reader very generously working on an English translation in association with Dr Detering himself.

 

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Author Neil GodfreyPosted on 2018-04-06 22:39:19 GMT+00002019-06-26 12:48:55 GMT+0000Categories Biblical Studies, Early Christianities, Gnosticism, New Testament, Religion and AtheismTags Buddhism, Christian Origins, Gnosticism, Hermann Detering3 Comments on Hermann Detering on the place of Gnosticism and Buddhism in Jesus Cult Origins

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