[1.] Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Introduction
- Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Chapter 1
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Chapters 1-2
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Chapter 2 continued
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: A Roman Trio
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: What Did Jews Have to Say?
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Telling the Gospels Like It Is
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Listening to the Sounds of Silence
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Three Voices on the Historical Jesus – No. 2: Ignatius
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Non-Pauline Epistles – Part One
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: The Pauline Epistles – Part One
19. Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: The Pauline Epistles – Part Two
20. Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: The Brother of the Lord
22. Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: A Crucified Messiah
- Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Is Jesus Based on Pagan Precedents?
- Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Did the earliest Christians regard Jesus as God?
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: G. A. Wells
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Bart Ehrman vs. Earl Doherty
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Earl Doherty’s Response to Bart Ehrman’s Case Against Mythicism: Did Mark Invent Jesus of Nazareth?
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Other posts on Bart Ehrman’s attempts to deal with mythicism
The following titles do not always give much indication of the contents of the posts. It might be better to click on this archive link: Ehrman: Did Jesus Exist?, and see the first paragraphs of all posts related to this book, Earl Doherty’s, Tim Widowfield’s and mine.
Bart Ehrman’s New Book: Did Steven Carr’s Prophecies Come True?.
Bart Ehrman’s Huffing and Posting Against Mythicism
Historical Jesus Studies As Pseudo-History — Bart Ehrman’s Jesus As a Case-Study
Bart Ehrman’s First Attempt to Grapple with Mythicism
The Democratization of Knowledge and the Reaction of Reactionary Scholars
Bart Ehrman’s false or careless assertions and quotations concerning Earl Doherty
Another Bart Ehrman mis-reading of Earl Doherty’s book
Earl Doherty’s comments on my posts about Ehrman’s treatment of his book
Ehrman hides the facts about Doherty’s argument: Part 1
Ehrman suppresses the facts while falsely accusing Doherty: Part 2
Devious Doherty or Erring Ehrman?
Ehrman’s Most Bizarre Criticism Of All Against Doherty
Did Bart Ehrman Not Even Read the Cover of Earl Doherty’s Book?
The Ehrman Debacle and Our “Post-Truth” World
Ehrman explains: Doherty could be right after all
Ehrman says Doherty’s argument is “intriguing and worthy of reflection”
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I just got notified of part 12……what happened to parts 9 – 11. How do I find an index page if this is not it?
Ah, I’m slack. Will update this soon.
Updated now. I try to keep this updated as the posts come through. Sometimes real life gets in the way and it’s not always current.
Thanks – I guess there are other ways to keep up to date. I just don’t know them.
I don’t know if anyone can help. In an online discussion, after I recommended this page and paying attention to Doherty, all of Doherty’s ideas were dismissed with a single statement: Doherty;s whole thesis is founded that Paul’s Jesus resided in a fleshly sub-lunar realm, which he asserts was a common feature of Middle Platonic thought. This idea is met with a universal “What? Do you know anything about Middle Platonism? It doesn’t say that at all.”
Has this been addressed and does anyone know of a link or book I can read to understand how to respond to it?
To see what Doherty does in fact argue have a look at http://vridar.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/ehrmans-most-bizarre-criticism-of-all-against-doherty/ where I quote Doherty’s words against Ehrman’s attack with a similar dismissal.
To show what were the common ideas at the time of Paul I have posted:
http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/ancient-beliefs-about-heavenly-realms-demons-and-the-end-of-the-world/
http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/demonology-the-basics-of-middle-platonic-beliefs-as-a-background-to-early-christianity/
http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/doherty-the-sublunar-realm-and-paul-correcting-some-disinformation/
and the archive on the Fallen Watchers: http://vridar.wordpress.com/category/religion/fallen-watchers/
Lowen, you won’t find Doherty’s “World of Myth” theory in any books or scholarly essays on how people thought back then. It is missing from John Dillon’s comprehensive “The Middle Platonists, 80 B.C. to A.D. 220”. It is missing from the primary sources of pagan literature like Plutarch, as well as secondary sources. You can’t open a scholarly book and read a chapter about “the World of Myth” theory, because it doesn’t exist.
For me, Doherty distorts the thinking of the pagans and Jews in Paul’s time in order to jam his theories in. And that is a damn shame, because how they thought back then is fascinating. All rationalists need to resist that kind of agenda-ridden distortion, whether it comes from the bad apologetics of the fundamentalists, or the bad apologetics of the mythicists. Ask yourself: how would you go about proving or disproving Doherty’s theories?
Why did Paul think there was a Jerusalem above us?
Why did the author of Hebrews think there was a tabernacle above us?
Where was the third Heaven that Paul claimed to have gone to?
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