Is it possible that our canonical gospels, even the apparently pioneering Gospel of Mark, were really composed well into the second century? The possibility has been argued by a few and I don’t discount it. I often find myself suspecting it is true although very often for the sake of argument I will assume that at least the Gospel of Mark was written relatively soon after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. There are reasonable arguments in favour of a first-century date, after all, but it is also undeniable that an early date for Mark “just happens” to favour orthodox Christian beliefs and traditional models for the sources and general reliability of the Gospels. It does not hurt to keep in mind the fundamentals for dating any text (see Scientific and Unscientific Dating of the Gospels) and that we ought always to start first with where we have the most secure evidence for the existence of a work, not from where we have the least.
Although it has become a standing procedure in the study of the [Bible’s books] to begin where we know the least and to end at the point where we have safe information in order to explain what is certain by reasons uncertain and from an unknown past, it is obvious to almost everybody else that this procedure has no claim to be called scientific. We should rather and as a matter of course start where we are best informed. Only from this vantage should we try to penetrate into the unknown past. (Lemche, N. P. (2001) “The Old Testament — A Hellenistic Book?” in Lester L. Grabbe (ed) Did Moses Speak Attic? Sheffield Academic Press, Sheffield. p. 294)
The earliest evidence that anyone knew of passages that appear in our canonical gospels are the writings of Justin Martyr from around 140 to 150 CE. I have posted a table cross-referencing Justin’s writings with Gospel content at http://vridar.info/xorigins/justinnarr.htm. (The table needs updating because I’ve since found a few mistakes in it, but overall it is useful for getting a general idea.)
Now it “just so happens” that Justin was writing at a time when there was a strong interest in the life and writings of the apostle Paul although you would not know it if you read only Justin. Paul is conspicuous in Justin’s works by his complete absence. Presumably the reason for Justin’s silence (despite the evidence we have for volcanic debates erupting over Paul all around him) is his refusal to acknowledge the apostle who was reputed to be the pillar of “the heretics”.
This interest in Paul is the point of this post’s argument for dating the gospels as I’ll explain.
But before I do, note the evidence for this strong interest in Paul in the second century. It was at this time that a canonical collection of Paul’s letters first appears. Since it happened to be the “heretical” Marcionites who produced this canon the “proto-orthodox” writers took hold of the same writings and accused their opponents of editing out the bits they did not like. And so the battle raged over what, exactly, the original texts of Paul’s letters looked like. Before the second century we have no record of any interest being shown in Paul’s letters.
It was also in the second century that we find stories being written about Paul and his career as an apostle. One of these is our New Testament book of Acts. There was another “Acts” of Paul that took a very different view of him and his message, “The Acts of Paul and Thecla”, which apparently proved to be very popular despite being condemned by Tertullian.
Moreover, we have Pastoral epistles falsely claiming to be by the apostle Paul — 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus — also being produced in this era. And there is 2 Peter with its concluding reference to widespread controversy over Paul’s letters likewise being written (or forged under Peter’s name) in the second century.
Some readers have no doubt jumped ahead and know where I am headed with how this point relates to the date of the gospels.
If the Gospel of Mark was influenced by the letters of Paul, then it is reasonable to date it to a time when there was clearly known to be strong evidence for an interest in Paul’s letters.
And not a few scholars have argued for the Gospel of Mark’s indebtedness to Paul. We have over 300 pages of debate in Mark and Paul, Comparative Essays Part II. For and Against Pauline Influence on Mark. Many of us know about Tom Dykstra’s Mark, Canonizer of Paul. There is also Alan Cadwallader’s The Struggle for Paul in the Context of Empire: Mark as a Deutero-Pauline Text and many more likeminded publications.
I was reminded of all of the above as I completed reading a discussion by Tomas Hägg in The Art of Biography in Antiquity about the Life of Aesop (by Anonymous) composed probably in the first century CE. Addressing the time the Life appeared and the context of its emergence, Hägg writes
The biographical interest, in turn, is no doubt a result of the renewed actuality of the ‘Aesopic’ fables in the first two centuries of the Roman Empire. This is the time when Phaedrus, a slave of Thacian origin who became a freedman of Emperor Augustus, wrote his well-known fables in Latin iambic verse . . . ; when Babrius, . . . ‘a hellenized Italian living in Syria, or somewhere near by in Asia Minor’, published his two books of Mythiambi, versified Aesopic fables in Greek; and when Plutarch, who in his works often refers to Aesopic fables, invites the fabulist himself to take part, as an outsider, in his Banquet of the Seven Sages to debate with Solon and others. The author of the Life [of Aesop] was evidently part of this vogue and set out to answer the question of who the legendary first inventor of the popular prose genre really was. . . . . (Hägg, p. 127. My highlighting)
So can we likewise say that the author of the Gospel of Mark was evidently part of this vogue of interest in Paul, a second century development?
It would surely be more logical to assume that the author was writing at a time when we have strong awareness of Paul’s writings than at a time when we have no other evidence for even knowledge of Paul’s letters. Obviously I cannot prove any of the above. But it is suggestive, is it not? It would be unusual to date the Life of Aesop to a time when there was no other interest in Aesop if it can be safely dated to a time when Aesop was the vogue of the day.
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We saw a very similar argument expressed by Lemche concerning the date of the Old Testament writings:
How Does One Date the Old Testament Writings?
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Fascinating! I enjoy your explorations.
So, lagging interest in Paul doesn’t liven up until interest quickens in crafting Mark? And this had to be prior to Justin Martyr’s 140 to 150 CE. If Mark influenced John, I wondered about the early date assigned to the p52 fragment of John. I was then pleased to find Hurtado’s assignment at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsLlXYLb0uA (a minute and a half long).
Justin does write that Jesus changed the names of James and John to Boanerges and that detail is found only in the Gospel of Mark, so it appears that scholars generally assume Justin knew the Gospel of Mark. Maybe, but Justin also says lots of other odd things and we cannot know if that particular detail was one that was put into our Gospel of Mark at a later date or if the original Gospel of Mark took the idea from other sources or made it up.
As for Hurtado’s comment on P52 — yes, I admire the strength of Hurtado’s faith: he has no need to lean on an especially early manuscript of a gospel for its support. He can afford to be completely frank and professional about sceptical views sometimes. 🙂
Putting the feline among the feathers, I see!
In that case, would it be too much of a stretch to suggest Mark was written after the Bar Kokhba revolt?
c.f.
THE SYNOPTIC APOCALYPSE (MARK 13 PAR): A DOCUMENT FROM THE TIME OF BAR KOCHBA
Hermann Detering
https://web.archive.org/web/20080227161050/http://www.radikalkritik.de/Mk13%20JHC.pdf
If I understood and recall Hermann Detering’s article correctly, he argues that Mark 13, the “little apocalypse” chapter, was added to the gospel after the Bar Kochba revolt. Not that the entire gospel was a product of that late era.
If there was an “ur-Mark” prior to our canonical Mark, he may be right. But as I suggest in the next post, I don’t think the Gospel of Mark was written with a biographical or proof of prophecy perspective so much as a symbolic narrative.
Deterring believes Mark’s Little Apocalypse is a redaction of Matthew’s, and both — along with GPeter’s — derive from an independently transmitted text.
He marshals extensive evidence to argue that the Little Apocalypse definitely refers to the period of the Bar Kochba revolt, thus cannot be used to date Mark to c. AD 70.
I’m unaware of Detering’s thoughts on the dating of Ur-Mark. He seems to consider the Little Apocalypse not original, noting that 13:3ff is incongruous with 13:2.
We need to keep in mind that Papias is on Eusebian record as having said that “Mark” wrote a gospel under the direction of Peter, and this was apparently no later than 130 CE.
I doubt whether Eusebian assertions such as that can have much veracity.