2010-04-30

Historical Jesus sham methodology link

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by Neil Godfrey

Hi guys! A link to my recent post from my own hometown!

http://www.meetup.com/BrisbaneAtheists/boards/view/viewthread?thread=9025824

Gives me a twinge of homesick blues

SUBTERRANEAN HOMESICK BLUES. — Image by nr.7375 via Flickr

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Stephen on John the Baptist: God’s Angel or “One Born of Women”?: “Other than Josephus’ penchant for making the Essenes/DSS into Greek philosophers, then one might suppose his portrayal of John is…” Oct 4, 23:55
Neil Godfrey on “Other criteria are required to determine historicity”: “Here’s another set of observations that may help us distinguish “fact from fiction”. The context is different, but perhaps the…” Oct 4, 22:20
Neil Godfrey on Do Mark’s Primitive Language, Aramaicisms and Theology Really Argue for Markan Priority?: “Here: https://vridar.org/bruno-bauer-six-works-translated-into-english/bruno-bauer-criticism-of-the-gospels-and-history-of-their-origin-in-english/ …. More specifically, the seventh chapter of the seventh book listed on that page where I link translations…” Oct 4, 21:50
Neil Godfrey on “Other criteria are required to determine historicity”: “What the point of the post demonstrates for me is that the Gospel of Mark’s John the Baptist is yet…” Oct 4, 21:32
Neil Godfrey on “Other criteria are required to determine historicity”: “I never thought it through like that. Thanks!” Oct 4, 21:23
Neil Godfrey on “Other criteria are required to determine historicity”: “Tertullian argues that John the Baptist was “of the creator” and stood in an anti-Marcionite role — given the context…” Oct 4, 21:19
Don Camp on “Other criteria are required to determine historicity”: “There may have been an attempt to identify John as fitting the Elijah type. Or he may actually have fit…” Oct 4, 19:43
Andrew J Dabrowski on Do Mark’s Primitive Language, Aramaicisms and Theology Really Argue for Markan Priority?: “Where does Bauer argue that?” Oct 4, 17:20

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