2011-10-04

Carrier’s Real Origins of Christianity Course

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by Neil Godfrey

Tim alerted me to an interesting course advertised on Richard Carrier’s blog:

http://richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2011/09/december-course.html

Course description: This course examines the historical origins of the Christian religion from a secular and skeptical perspective. . . . .

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Carrier’s Real Origins of Christianity Course

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