2007-03-25

Best explanation I’ve read yet re Alexander and Rufus

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by Neil Godfrey

JakeJonesIV on the iidb discussion group has offered the most coherent and contextualized explanation of the identity of Alexander and Rufus I’ve heard yet. Check out his posts 4292918 and 4291566. The explanation relates to Robert Price’s comment in his Pre-Nicene New Testament suggesting the possibility that Simon Magus is the figure behind Simon of Cyrene.

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Note added 21 April 2023: those forum posts links no longer work so here are screenshots of them:

4292918:

https://bcharchive.org/2/thearchives/showthread7286-5.html?t=200864&page=7

4291566:

https://bcharchive.org/2/thearchives/showthread39df-3.html?t=200864&page=6

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cap says:

2015-07-20 13:52:44 GMT+0000 at 13:52

The links to the discussion group posts are broken. What was the gist of JakeJonesIV’s explanation?

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  2015-07-21 01:38:35 GMT+0000 at 01:38
  
  I cannot recall, but the closest I can find now is at http://bcharchive.org/2/thearchives/showthread9e3f-2.html
  
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